Comments on: MultiLingual Websites in ExpressionEngine http://cwcrawley.co.uk/2010/01/multi-lingual-websites-in-expressionengine/ Random posts of a programmer, martial artist, gamer and general geek Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:09:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Carl Crawley http://cwcrawley.co.uk/2010/01/multi-lingual-websites-in-expressionengine/comment-page-1/#comment-5160 Carl Crawley Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:09:32 +0000 http://cwcrawley.co.uk/?p=113#comment-5160 Yes - you've hit the nail there. Most of the time (I'd say 99%) of the time, I am building websites which have two lots of independent content - in different languages and news items don't always apply to a French audience as they would to an English Audience for example, so utilising the duplicated field methodology doesn't work... but yes, in case where you're selling tickets for example to an event - you don't want to have two 'event' entries for each language, so duplicating the body fields is the best solution. I wouldn't advise using statuses at all because this then causes complications that are just un-necessary when there are so many other solutions about! Thanks for the post! C. Yes – you’ve hit the nail there.

Most of the time (I’d say 99%) of the time, I am building websites which have two lots of independent content – in different languages and news items don’t always apply to a French audience as they would to an English Audience for example, so utilising the duplicated field methodology doesn’t work…

but yes, in case where you’re selling tickets for example to an event – you don’t want to have two ‘event’ entries for each language, so duplicating the body fields is the best solution.

I wouldn’t advise using statuses at all because this then causes complications that are just un-necessary when there are so many other solutions about!

Thanks for the post!

C.

]]> By: moonbeetle http://cwcrawley.co.uk/2010/01/multi-lingual-websites-in-expressionengine/comment-page-1/#comment-5159 moonbeetle Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:00:15 +0000 http://cwcrawley.co.uk/?p=113#comment-5159 ah the duplicate fields vs a language field question. It would seem logical to have a language field for each channel that deals with language dependent entries. It reminds me of the time I wrote SQL statements like: SELECT * FROM news WHERE lang = 'en'. Sure from a programmer perspective this seems so obvious. But with duplicated fields (body_en, body_fr, body_es) you will have the benefit that all data for an entry (the main language and the translated versions) are grouped together in one interface while if you use a language field and not duplicate fields you will end up with many entries of the same "thing". Site owners often find it easier to have all translations in one place, thus duplicated fields. A question you can ask to decide wether or not to use a language field or duplicate fields is: Does this channel data always need to be translated? If the answer is yes I would go with duplicating fields. If the answer is no you can run with having a language field. A third option is using statuses. I try to avoid this but sometimes it's the only way. ah the duplicate fields vs a language field question.

It would seem logical to have a language field for each channel that deals with language dependent entries. It reminds me of the time I wrote SQL statements like: SELECT * FROM news WHERE lang = ‘en’. Sure from a programmer perspective this seems so obvious.

But with duplicated fields (body_en, body_fr, body_es) you will have the benefit that all data for an entry (the main language and the translated versions) are grouped together in one interface while if you use a language field and not duplicate fields you will end up with many entries of the same “thing”. Site owners often find it easier to have all translations in one place, thus duplicated fields.

A question you can ask to decide wether or not to use a language field or duplicate fields is: Does this channel data always need to be translated? If the answer is yes I would go with duplicating fields. If the answer is no you can run with having a language field.

A third option is using statuses. I try to avoid this but sometimes it’s the only way.

]]> By: Carl Crawley http://cwcrawley.co.uk/2010/01/multi-lingual-websites-in-expressionengine/comment-page-1/#comment-5158 Carl Crawley Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:39:25 +0000 http://cwcrawley.co.uk/?p=113#comment-5158 Now updated to include instructions for EE2.1 setup as well... Enjoy! Now updated to include instructions for EE2.1 setup as well…

Enjoy!

]]> By: ClientSide Username Checking, EE and jQuery « Digital Meanderings http://cwcrawley.co.uk/2010/01/multi-lingual-websites-in-expressionengine/comment-page-1/#comment-4731 ClientSide Username Checking, EE and jQuery « Digital Meanderings Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:56:11 +0000 http://cwcrawley.co.uk/?p=113#comment-4731 [...] If you have a multi-lingual set up like my previous post on Multilingual sites in EE, then you will need to change {segment_3} for [...] [...] If you have a multi-lingual set up like my previous post on Multilingual sites in EE, then you will need to change {segment_3} for [...]

]]> By: kaalofkammen http://cwcrawley.co.uk/2010/01/multi-lingual-websites-in-expressionengine/comment-page-1/#comment-2940 kaalofkammen Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:42:16 +0000 http://cwcrawley.co.uk/?p=113#comment-2940 This is an example for EE1. How does this work on EE2? Thanx and many regards, @kaalofkammen This is an example for EE1. How does this work on EE2?
Thanx and many regards,

@kaalofkammen

]]> By: Carl Crawley http://cwcrawley.co.uk/2010/01/multi-lingual-websites-in-expressionengine/comment-page-1/#comment-2813 Carl Crawley Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:41:43 +0000 http://cwcrawley.co.uk/?p=113#comment-2813 I believe marco pointed out that one - you need to specify the /index.php as per his comment further up (I have updated the article as well). Thanks for the encouraging comments though! Regards, Carl I believe marco pointed out that one – you need to specify the /index.php as per his comment further up (I have updated the article as well).

Thanks for the encouraging comments though!

Regards,

Carl

]]> By: Amweg http://cwcrawley.co.uk/2010/01/multi-lingual-websites-in-expressionengine/comment-page-1/#comment-2724 Amweg Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:26:18 +0000 http://cwcrawley.co.uk/?p=113#comment-2724 Well-written tutorial, it worked for me, and helped a lot! I have only some trouboe with the "redirection part" : if I use a simple .htaccess file with your code inside "Redirect 301 / http://www.mysite.it/it/" 6he browser freezes and safari warns me: "Too many redirects occurred trying to open “http://www.mysite.it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/”. This might occur if you open a page that is redirected to open another page which then is redirected to open the original page." What am I doing wrong? Thanks Marco; Well-written tutorial,

it worked for me, and helped a lot!

I have only some trouboe with the "redirection part" : if I use a simple .htaccess file with your code inside "Redirect 301 / http://www.mysite.it/it/" 6he browser freezes and safari warns me: "Too many redirects occurred trying to open “http://www.mysite.it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/”. This might occur if you open a page that is redirected to open another page which then is redirected to open the original page."

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks

Marco;

]]> By: Marco http://cwcrawley.co.uk/2010/01/multi-lingual-websites-in-expressionengine/comment-page-1/#comment-2436 Marco Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:17:42 +0000 http://cwcrawley.co.uk/?p=113#comment-2436 solution: Redirect 301 /index.php http://www.mysite.it/it/ Bye Marco solution:

Redirect 301 /index.php http://www.mysite.it/it/

Bye

Marco

]]> By: Marco http://cwcrawley.co.uk/2010/01/multi-lingual-websites-in-expressionengine/comment-page-1/#comment-2429 Marco Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:54:55 +0000 http://cwcrawley.co.uk/?p=113#comment-2429 Well-written tutorial, it worked for me, and helped a lot! I have only some trouble with the "redirection part" : if I use a simple .htaccess file with your code inside "Redirect 301 / http://www.mysite.it/it/" the browser freezes and safari warns me: "Too many redirects occurred trying to open “http://www.mysite.it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/”. This might occur if you open a page that is redirected to open another page which then is redirected to open the original page." What am I doing wrong? Thanks Marco Well-written tutorial,

it worked for me, and helped a lot!

I have only some trouble with the “redirection part” : if I use a simple .htaccess file with your code inside “Redirect 301 / http://www.mysite.it/it/” the browser freezes and safari warns me: “Too many redirects occurred trying to open “http://www.mysite.it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/it/”. This might occur if you open a page that is redirected to open another page which then is redirected to open the original page.”

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks

Marco

]]> By: MarmaladeToday http://cwcrawley.co.uk/2010/01/multi-lingual-websites-in-expressionengine/comment-page-1/#comment-2196 MarmaladeToday Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:52:56 +0000 http://cwcrawley.co.uk/?p=113#comment-2196 Thanks Carl. That technique was also developed out of ideas in the wiki article. I agree, use what works for you. Also use what makes most sense given your situation. Horses for courses. Oh yes, EE2 is certainly going to :-) A. Thanks Carl. That technique was also developed out of ideas in the wiki article.

I agree, use what works for you. Also use what makes most sense given your situation. Horses for courses.

Oh yes, EE2 is certainly going to :-)

A.

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